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Posted by: On: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:45 AM

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Much of what has been written here provides good evidence why it is important to have a certification. These programs provide the educator with instruction in their content area, delivery methods, legal/ethical issues, building effective relationships with students/parents, and the list goes on. Educators need this training and it needs to be continuing, especially those in leadership / supervisory roles.
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Posted by: On: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:33 AM

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please grow up people. stop making immature comments and bringing up issues or people's personal problems to the table just to distract from the facts and the situation. if you do not know the facts and were not involved, please keep your rude and immature comments to yourselves. this is ridiculous. you are teaching your children and the children that are around you that it is okay to hurt others, some children have already vandalized someone's property and threatened them, just because they stated their opinions. THIS is the only effect you are having on the situation when you make ridiculous comments. Please grow up, get a life, and if you don’t know the facts or what someone else has been through, don’t try to act like you do! stop bringing up people's personal situations just to distract from the truth! the issue needs to be investigated, people felt as if they were wronged, and situations were handled badly. like I said before: investigate it, end of story. I am 18 years old and acting much more mature than many adults here. does that not embarrass you? Grow up. if your going to attack people stop being cowards and do it to their faces.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:11 PM

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To whom it may concern as a father who has a daughter and a player i understand how coaches are and how they talk and if it was a woman coach none of these comments would be made. Since I was a player I know coaches would talk to you in a certain way because they see the potential in the player and if the coach did not care he would not put so much potencial in the player and as a parent or a coach may get fustrated at times at the player
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:12 PM

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Its just hard for some people to understand that you do not have to be a starter or even play much to be a contributing member of a team. I'm sure, as on most teams, there have been many kids who did not play much but were vital members of Bryan's teams. Unfortunately some people think the only way to be on a team is to play the role you decide, not the role that the team needs you to play.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:54 PM

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If they weren't great teachers, they wouldn't be great coaches. Coaching is teaching. It would be hard to deny that BHS Softball has been anything but great.
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Posted by: Willie Mays Hays On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:57 PM

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Congrats. Tell him to remember as a Teacher/Coach teaching comes first. He can live off of his teacher salary but he can not live off of his coaching stipend. Also a teacher certificate can be pulled for unethical or unlawful behavior. We have some great coaches in BISD and they are great coaches because first they were great teachers.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:31 PM

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One of the coaches in question has completed all requirements to be deemed HIGHLY QUALIFIED in the State of Texas. Additionally, he is currently several classes shy of obtaining his masters. Does this make you feel better? He is one of the best coaches I have known and always will be because his passion for the sport runs through his veins.....not because he has a B.A. or M.A.,etc. next to his name on a sheet of paper.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:45 PM

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Great, now the fire Harry Francis crew is back. Wasn't getting Marty fired for not being willing to fire Harry over this same kind of crap good enough for you. Same thing, kids weren't good enough so their dads sat down at the end of the fence and plotted how to get peoples job. Sad thing is no matter who gets fired your kids still won't be good enough and now they go into the world not knowing how to deal with it. Way to prepare your kids for real life guys.
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Posted by: Hank Hill On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:25 PM

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Mr. Adams I'm giving you official immunity b/c you are in the Navy. Despite your misguided comments lumping Texans into "a redneck state" I still wish you well in the hunt for Bin Laden. Now if Enrique Luna were in the Navy.... Oh well...... Honey bring me another Lone Star!!!
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:36 PM

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Sounds like most of these posts are just judgemental statements. We all know there are 2 sides and the truth is in the middle. It makes us all sound like a bunch of backwards,narrow-minded people.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:49 PM

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Its just not softball at BHS....... This has gone on for years! Harry Francis needs to go!
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:24 PM

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Mr. Adams - I agree with you but please proof read before posting when you are bashing rednecks. "trailor" ??? Sort of makes you look like a redneck.
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Posted by: Larry David Adams; USN On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:55 PM

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The fact that more of you pay attention to local high school athletics and less attention to what is happening in the rest of the PLANET earth (that is the sphere of dirt that you live on)shows the problem with Texas and America. As of this moment 139 people have read this article. The next highest number of biews is 29. 29! 29!?!? It is no wonder that Texas cannot get rid of the stigma of red-necks in the trailor park who care about nothing except beer, Playboy mags and high school sports. You are a sad group of people.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:17 PM

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Its all Bush's fault
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:12 PM

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Bring back Marty Criswell!!!!!
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Posted by: #22 On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:05 PM

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Hey u cut down all the comments about Buppy's horrible place. Take heed and do the same to this one. It's getting out of hand!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: Tax payer On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:26 PM

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Enough already! Come on Eagle staff, shut all this bull crap down!!!
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:06 AM

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This is the most mature comment I have seen! Amen!
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:43 AM

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too many ignorant people are getting involved into this, an issue that they are not involved in and actually have no idea about. innocent people are being dragged into this and too many unnecessary comments are being made. the hurtful comments are doing absolutely no good whatsoever here. this is turning into a juvenile middle school-like argument that is having no effect on the outcome of the situation. no matter what side you are on and especially if you are not involved, please think about the fact that you are only hurting both sides and many innocent people and girls with your immature comments. the issues need to be investigated, end of story. please discontinue the immatureness and if you are not involved and are ignorant stay out of it.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:27 AM

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Great season? Are you kidding? This the first year we haven't won outright or been co-district champs. This is the first year in the history of Consol softball that they beat us both times we played them during the season!
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:22 AM

Comment Title: Girls rights vs. Coaches rights
There is no issue here whatsoever...whether the allegations are false or not, they have to be investigated when the claims are made. The girls rights and safety are far more important than those of the coaching staff. As I understand it, Coach Luna does not teach, as he is not a degreed teacher. I am not making any rude or false statements about parents or Coaches; however, if those of you that hide behind the anonymity of a blog slander others while doing so...then you yourself are probably guilty of far worse..stand behind your allegations and threats.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:08 AM

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Should've hired Rick a long time ago. He's been developing softball players longer than enrique has been alive. Enrique owes alot to Rick and so does the rest of this community. Enrique just likes to flirt with girls.
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Posted by: Former/Current softball parent On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:54 AM

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Obviously, you don't know what you are talking about either? There was NO dating of a player by Coach Luna, if you think so then why not go ask her or her parents if it's true. I'm sure they'd love for you to ask them about it. Secondly, there was NO reassignment of an assistant coach. I was there and he was there until the very end of the season. Which by the way was a very successful season! If you want to know where he will be this year and what he will be coaching, ask him! Softball was not the only sport he coached, actually softball is not the only sport all the softball coaches coach. You people talk about things that happened years ago, well there was a different HEAD COACH then, why are you not casting blame there? Why is Coach Luna the only one that is being blamed for anything wrong in the past? Regardless of what all you parents, who have daughters that play softball say, bottom line is you are ticked off because you THINK your daughter is the best and DESERVES the playing time. Don't come back and say this bull about grades changed, attendance records changed and their child was endangered! YOU are ticked because there was someone better on the field when you THOUGHT your daughter should be there. There has been a time when we all felt that way, that is life! So just suck it up and deal with it!! You people all talk about firing the coaches, let me ask you this....Do you honestly think any coach in their right mind would want to come to Bryan High and coach softball after they hear about all this? This is an embarrassment to the program, the school, the district, all coaches, players and parents!!!! They would want no part of people like you! Their job is tough enough without having to deal with bull like this! Good Luck Coach Luna and the other softball coaches, not that you will need it! You have tremendous support on your side and it will show at the next board meeting, you can count on it, besides the truth WILL come out!
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:55 AM

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Please don't think that the issues taken to the school board by the Youngs, the Salinas', and the Flores are the only issues that have been going on at BHS softball this year. They are just the only families that took a written complaint about their daughters' issues to the school board.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:49 AM

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I do not believe any complaints have been made about playing time. I also know that "stats" are controlled by the opportunities that you get (controlled by coaches). I also know that there have been many major issues that many parents have been concerned with this year, and that thye have gone up to talk to coaches and the athletic directors about. It is not just about the issues that these three families have gone to the school board with a written document about. This is just their three daughter's particular issues.
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Posted by: Softball DAD On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:23 AM

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The stands are actually quite pleasant because the complainers are rarely at a game. Interesting that they can find the time for all this mess but not to come support their kids. Maybe some parental guilt that this would be their last season and they've hardly seen em play? Hmmmm
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Posted by: Colonel Sanders On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:12 AM

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Rick was a pretty dang good player in his day too so there maybe something to some genetic giftedness passed on to his kids. As a Bryan fan we just need more kid like Gors! Maybe we could have hung up a few more banners. By the way I wonder if these complainers were any good in there day or did some abusive coach ruin their career??? Genetically speaking there is the old saying that "you cant make chicken salad out of chicken ----".
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:00 AM

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I play softball at Bryan High and I was a varsity starter. It is not a requirement to play travel ball and off-season softball, but it does help develop your skills and make you a better player in most cases. I have not played travel ball for at least 3 years and I did not play on Rick’s off season team. However, I earned a spot on varsity and started every game this past season as a sophomore through hard work. I also earned first team All-District and All Brazos Valley honors. This shows that everyone has the same opportunities and can earn a spot on the team through skill, hard work, and discipline.
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Posted by: Coach Boilermaker On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:27 AM

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Never went to a softball game but I'm thinking of showing up to watch the action in the bleachers. It will make the Jerry Springer show look classy. Maybe I'll get a classy tatoo and roll some cigs up in the sleeve of my too small t-shirt for the occassion. Just to fit in you know!
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Posted by: Softball DAD On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:08 AM

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I like how when verifiable facts presented such as these students behavior, grades, attendance or what ever their mom's or dads get on here and try to deflect the conversation by dragging people like Rick into it. Rick Goryzki has helped more kids than you could probably count in this community. Kids from all over the Brazos valley have played for him ( Brenham and Consol most notably). He unlike most travel ball coaches does not get payed for his time ( except for lessons). He volunteers it so that kids who want to play have the opportunity even when they can't afford to go to houston and pay the big bucks. He ove the game and is willing to help any kid that wants to learn the game. And no my daughter has not played for him.
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Posted by: On: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:10 AM

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You are right, people are treated unfairly, just as Coach Luna is being treated unfairly. Verbal abuse, well that is everywhere you go, and I'm sad to say that it comes from the girls mouths also. Regardless if the funeral was in the fall or spring, they were in off season, and if I remember correctly from when I was in school, even if you had a note to excuse your absence, this DID NOT excuse you from any work you missed. You had to make up the work, regardless of the absence being excused or not. This was a class and their off season workouts were their assignments, it is up to them to make sure they made up the work, just as everyone else had to. Just as you think its ridiculous the way coaches act at times, it is also ridiculous the way parents act at times.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:25 PM

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this goes back farther than this past year. Yes people are treated unfair yes there is verbal abuse, and there are plenty of people that have gone through it. The funeral was in the FALL when there was no practices, there was only class and with a note they are excused. It is beyond ridiculous the way the coaches act at times. They may be nice guys but shouldnt be coaching softball.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:03 PM

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Wow if all the people that have commented on this story actually came to one softball game at BHS, the stands would be full!! Not all of the athletes that play on varsity play on year round teams, some of them have never played club softball, but many have because they love the game. Playing club ball can be a great thing for an athlete if it is done for the right reasons – just like most everything else. As for the idiot that has now decided to attack the Gorzycki family, shame on you. You just really showed what a fool you are because you must have really never participated in any way, shape, form or fashion in softball in B/CS because if you had, you would know what an asset the entire Gorzycki family is. Rick and Lordues have volunteered countless hours at Little League East, Harvey and BHS. Believe me, as someone who has spent many hours after everyone went home picking up trash and raking the fields, there are a whole lot more exciting things to do – like watching grass grow. They did it to help the kids. And you obviously never made it down the sidewalk to the softball field at BHS this year because if you had – you would have known for sure that Patty EARNED her spot on the team she did not need her daddy to do anything for her but cheer her on Positively from the stands-Just as he did. Again, if you would have come to a game, you would have known that!!!
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:44 PM

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Hasn't everyone had enough of this article by now? Should be time for the newspaper to shut this down. Too many innocent people are getting dragged into this.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:43 PM

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Most 5A schools in the metro areas of Texas play a fall and winter schedule. There are many of the 4A and smaller that play too. The high school coaches cant coach these teams, so some of the dedicated parents coach them while the high school coaches attend the games/tournaments and observe. In our area I saw that Consolidated plays a full fall schedule in Cyfair and other schools like Giddings and Rockdale play too. It's not Rick's team, but he volunteers his time, even when he didnt have kids on the team to help out where others wouldnt lift a finger. you should thank him and keep him out of this debate.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:26 PM

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Funny the majority of 18 Gold ball team's coaches are paid and have no kids on the team. Those also are the players that start for the better 5A programs. Klein Oak who was ranked #1 this past season was completely made up Gold ball players. Bryan High is fortunate to have so many dedicated softball players. These kids live their sport 24/7/365. They train, they don't practice. That is why so many teams, like ours, are successful, because of these dedicated athletes(soccer, softball, volleyball). When the "whiners" are ready to dedicate themselves like these athletes do, then they can gripe about playing time. I am not saying they shouldn't play, but know they had the opportunity to do the same thing but most don't want to sacrifice to devote themselves to a sport. FYI: many sophomores are already verbally committed to a college. If you don't believe coaches look at them just go to an exposure tournament and listen to the coaches. Most schools are now looking for 2010 and 2011. They cannot sign until after their Senior year starts usually the second week in November (the date is set by the NCAA) but most are recruited and have offers by their junior year. Most kids are doing official visits by their junior year. As far as Rick goes, his daughter deserved her spot on varsity. It IS NOT a requirement to play on his team, it is optional. Rick Gorzycki has been a tremendous supporter and coach for the BHS girls. He gives of his free time to get the girls started before the Spring season. Attacking him has nothing to do with this issue at hand. We all owe him a great deal of gratitude.
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Posted by: W On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:18 PM

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I believe Enrique Luna is hiding weapons of mass destruction somewhere at BHS... by the ay didnt Ricks kid help get us to a championship and then play at ATM? Wish we coould do him a few more favors like that!
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Posted by: Hillary On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:08 PM

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Hey I coached softball under sniper fire in Iraq. Whats all the fuss about.
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Posted by: Einstein On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:46 PM

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It's well known that kids don't play for Bryan High unless they play year round on a tournament team.Youth sports are and always will be about political favoritism and daddyball. It starts in t-ball and progresses all the way to high school. Not sure I would hire a teachers aid to coach my 5A softball team but I'll leave that to the school board. Back to daddyball, it's also known that you won't play at BH varsity unless you play for Rick Gorzycki's tournament team during the off season. As a favor for his efforts, his daughter made the varsity team as a freshman. Yes folks, softball at Bryan High, Consol. or anywhere is political and full of favoritism.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:16 PM

Comment Title: On the low down
It's no wonder you idiots will never get along. All the school system has to do is ban all none travel team players from participating. Tell them this is a public school for only the elite superstars and be done with it.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:32 PM

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Come on Softball Dad! I doubt colleges are signing sophomores. Maybe looking at them but signing? Shoot straight Bubba or holster that weapon.
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Posted by: Softball DAD On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:09 PM

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If these kids are so good where are they signed to play college ball. I think all 5 of Bryans seniors are playing college ball. Colleges are signing stud kids as sophomores now days. Any offers for these Franchise players from LL North?
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:43 PM

Comment Title: regarding "the truth"
Wow, when did you get cut? There are bad apples in everything. Fortunately they tend to weed themselves out and don't last long. From what I've read the parents and kids that have dealt with and know these coaches overwhelmingly support them. The people who question them have not identified what if any contact they've ever had with them. If your kids haven't played for them or you don't even know them you really are just adding to the problem. I'm sure if there are more "abused" kids they would be willing to come forward to "save" others. So where are you?
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Posted by: The Truth On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:33 PM

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All of the Coaches need to be placed somewhere away from kids. Coaches get the Big-Heads and Do miss treat students.
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Posted by: past BHS Lady Viking Softball parent On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:09 PM

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LITTLE LEAGUE COMPARED TO 5A SOFTBALL.......ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? Don't be fooled reading these blogs.......this is all about parents living through their kids, kids making poor choices, and everyone trying to blame the coaches through "trumped up and made up" accusations. 1. these kids, failed classes, skipped classes and ignored team rules. It is on record that they were academically ineligible, in trouble for fighting and pictures of them participating in the powderpuff game during softball season are on the internet. 2. Because they were required to take responsibility for their poor choices their parents are ticked off. 3. After a season of lack of dedication to their respective teams, grade trouble, and behavior trouble they were told softball might not be the place for them.. I applaud the coaches for taking a stand. These three have no desire to be here, but boy do their parents. I applaud the players I saw on the news who stood up for the program. They all had to make up missed practices for various reasons, one even admitted skipping one time at lunch and ran because of it...do you see her parents up there whining and placing blame? I would have been there beside the coach saying make them run one more and maybe they won't fight, fail or skip again. But it is much easier to place false blame on the coaching staff than make their kids accountable for their poor choices. I bet they learn a good lesson from that one. Throw a fit and get my way even though I screwed up. I have been a coach and I would not take kids with that behavior on my team. As far as the other players...many girls play year round and all summer when these three are at home in the AC and hanging out with their friends. Compare their stats-stats don't lie. When they can make an 18 gold team....then talk to me about contributing to the team. BHS starters have given the majority of their lives to softball. If anyone thinks that little league state can compare to 5A ball or competitive softball you better go watch some games at Gold Nationals. To all these players, especially the pitcher: Put up your stats. Do yours hold up to the other pitchers. I believe that you got 1st team all district from a coach that "abused you". He had to nominate you, did he not? When you went in, did you do you job? I don't mean to be cruel but I don't think you did. But in fairness to you, if I treated my daughter, the way your dad does you. She would have quit a long time ago. He is accountable, not you. His reputation has preceded him since his other daughter played and I was there at that time. I believe in our program and our coaches. I do not use ill-placed blame for my daughters bad choices or lack of performance. I expected her to do all the coaching staff asked of her when she was at BHS. You parents should expect the same and quit blaming others for their indiscretions. I welcome you to enter your "little league' kids in the ASA tournaments around our area. Then you will see why most of the starters are well...starters.
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Posted by: Robin Roberts On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:04 PM

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"Adults would do the kids a big favor if they would drop the equipment off at the field and LEAVE." ---Basball Hall of Famer Robin Roberts on Little League Baseball
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Posted by: Al Gore On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:51 PM

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I bet none of these girls can throw a steak as good as Uncle Rico! As the inventor of softball, I cant believe you people act this way.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:46 PM

Comment Title: Re: Long time L.L. North participant
You cant be serious when you talk about BHS softball next season?! Oh and these girls and parents will be confronted face to face by myself and my daughter.
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Posted by: Softball DAD On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:44 PM

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The only reason they are good enough in Little League is that very few kids their age that are great players play Little League. If they are so great they would be playing travel ball so college coaches could see them. Sad fact but true.
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Posted by: Mad at BHS On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:39 PM

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I go to school with these girls. They are far from angels. If Leah is so mistreated how come she got sent to SOS for fighting?
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:36 PM

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Being treated fairly doesnt mean you get everything you want. Fair means they all got an equal chance. Why would any coach risk a program especially as successful as this Bryan's to fix grades for kids that dont even play and were so mistreated. Does that really make sense to anyone? I believe if you ckeck 4 of the 6 coaches are certified teachers and one taught senior english at Consol, not that that has anything to do with their ability to coach. If so then you are saying that all the Little League, many private school coaches, most college and Professional coaches aren't qualified either as most are not certified teachers. Many states don't even require their coaches to teach. Do your research before you run your mouth.
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Posted by: Long time L.L. North participant On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:29 PM

Comment Title: RE: L.L. North Parents
The girls in question are the only reason you are going to state. Without any one of these 3, let alone all 3 you wouldn't be going anywhere, much like BHS softball next season. Their parents are the main reason they are talented enough to lead your team their. More importantly they have a right to go and support their children just like you do and if you don't like them I say you confront them about it not just hide behind an anonymous post. Ask Mr. Young's daughter if she has any problems with the way her father or other family members treat her on or off the field. And if the Flores' offend you let them know.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:27 PM

Comment Title: It started at home.....??
And you know this how? Do you live with them?Don't comment on things you don't know about.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:23 PM

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Here we are again with the degree or just an aid! Honestly, does it really matter?! As long as the coach is experienced in the sport, continues to learn, keeps updated with changes in the rules, performs all the duties associated with his position, and is a good person. Coach Luna does all those and more! The problem with these girls started at home. Their parents did not see to it that these girls were passing their classes, were attending all their classes nor were they teaching their daughters to be responsible. Honestly, softball should not matter to these parents, if I'm correct with the thinking of most parents, an EDUCATION is more important.I would be making sure that my child will be graduating. Seriously, these parents need to take a step back and look at the big picture and ask themselves, "did I do everything in my power to make sure my daughter was doing everything she should have been." It is so easy to blame someone else for our kids not being happy about a situation. I'm just wondering if you put the girls in one room and put the parents in the other and asked them the same questions about all these allegations, would you get the same answers? Hmmmm.....
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Posted by: Softball Mom On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:12 PM

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All three of the girls are awesome softball players and their parents are all very supportive. All three families work very hard for their families and care very much for all of them. When someone does something wrong then you are suppose to speak up. That's what you teach your children to do. These girls are teenage girls, yes they may make mistakes but be treated fairly isn't much to ask. Or is it?
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Posted by: Uncle Rico On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:10 PM

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If coach had put me in, I just know we would have won state! I know it! I bet I could throw a football over them mountains!
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:03 PM

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It is a shame that parents cannot accept that maybe their child is not that good at a certain sport even if they think so. They are not the coaches. Parents need to teach their children that there are disappointments in school as well as in life. That is one of the problems with our youths of today, if they don't get their way, they "cry" to their parents and the parents run to the school board, some with threats, and in the process hurt good coaches just doing their job. They need to learn to take criticism and either work harder to get better or leave the program. Unless a parent has been a licensed coach, they need to keep their mouth shut about something they know nothing about.
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Posted by: Am I qualified to be a Aid/Coach? On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:32 PM

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Which would you like coaching you children? Someone who is educated or is just an Aid? I understand that several of the other coaches are just aids also. What an example to set for our kids if they win or lose. Coach Luna didn't shake any hands with rival Consol last year.Is this teaching our kids good sportsmanship?? I guess its okay if an Aid is doing all the coaching.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:53 PM

Comment Title: Why so few complain?
It should be obvious. Look at how they are being attacked! Most people just complain but never do anything about it because they are afraid of being attacked like this.
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Posted by: Barrack On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:48 PM

Comment Title:
OBAMA FOR CHANGE!!!!
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Posted by: Marcus Welby MD On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:45 PM

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Hey I know a guy who loves doing heart surgery. Great guy he is.... dedicated, early riser, has read a lot of books about heart surgery, attended Dr. DeBakey's funeral, etc... But he never went to Med School..... but I promise you he'll do a great job on your quad by-pass and he's much cheaper.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:36 AM

Comment Title: Immature
Man I think I stumbled over the what parents without lives do article...grow up, and stop saying such immature things, you look and sound like idiots, and hope it doesn't reflect in your children.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:31 AM

Comment Title: Little League North
My daughter also plays softball with these families in question. Our family has sat in the stands with the parents, talked to them, listened to them. Mr. Young is always yelling at his daughter if she doesn't make the "right" plays and Mr. and Mrs. Flores complain about the other parents and team members. The team is going to State and we are all hoping that the girls in question will go and leave their parents at home.
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Posted by: Concerned Citizen On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:09 AM

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I know many great kids, good students, from good familes who just quit the BHS softball program rather than put themselves and their familes through the attacks on their character if they dared bring any problem to the forefront.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:47 AM

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I am not a kid and I look in the mirror everyday and know that I am not perfect. As I said before no one on here has said that. These parents are the ones who "opened this can of worms" and when you do something like this, you are subjected to what people have to say to you and about you. Obviously you are a friend of the Flores family and that is fine but my last comment to you is that you say that they are good parents, well Stacy may be but I question Roy, what parent in their right mind would do what he did to his youngest child?!
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Posted by: middie On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:28 AM

Comment Title: and one more thing
I am not a perfect parent. I've spanked my child (gasp!) and I will do it again if needed, which is VERY rarely. The Flores are good people and good parents. Take a GOOD look in YOUR mirror. Seriously. Don't judge. There is only ONE Judge that matters. And, if you are a kid and you are reading this, know that your parents aren't perfect. Be glad that they aren't.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:25 AM

Comment Title: Re: Middie
I don't think in one comment anyone speaks about being perfect! The ones who are involved in the program and know the truth think it is completely wrong in what these parents are doing. It is only fair that they share their side of what is really the truth because as you can see from the first comments posted yesterday, most of they people had already cast judgment on Coach Luna and the other coaches. There are many people who wanted to know the other side. You said that this forum is only good for one thing, fostering hate. My question to you is....why are you on here reading and commenting then?
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Posted by: middie On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:04 AM

Comment Title: perfect people
I was not aware that there were so many perfect people that know everything about everything. Let the system work it out. If the accusations are not true, it will come out. Also, why do people believe that they have to attack people on here? This forum is only good for one thing...fostering hate. I feel sorry for your kids. Hate is taught by actions and words.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:52 AM

Comment Title: Players & Parents Fight for their Coaches -- Good job
Bryan High Softball Debate Continues - www.abc40.com BRYAN - Several Bryan High parents and softball players are up in arms after last night's school board meeting, when a group of Viking softball players and their parents accused their coaching staff of misconduct. "It's ridiculous, it really is, a lot of varsity parents have spoken and we just can't believe that they are putting the program through this," said Angela Lara, a parent of one current and one former Viking softball player. Last night parents of three varsity softball players alleged that their daughters had experienced unfair treatment, including extreme punishment, and grade-tampering. After hearing this, players are now coming forward and saying that these accusations are not true. "As far the punishment goes, everyone was treated the same," said Calli Wood, a former Viking softball player. Another former player, Michelle Stratta, added "as far as favoritism, I never saw favoritism towards myself or any other varsity player in years past, or this year, I've never seen favoritism." The parents making the allegations gave the school board a book listing their complaints. The book also provided a summary of dialogue between the coaching staff, superintendent, and the concerned parents. According to some players this book has been circulating for awhile and this has Ashley Lara, a current member of the team, upset. "They said that I skipped out and I did, I skipped lunch, one period, and they said I had no punishment, when I had to be at practice on Saturday early just to run. I ran every practice until [Coach Gallego] thought I was done." According to players, not only were the coaches fair, they were also willing to give their time. "They were all very helpful, none of them were negative, they all gave help whenever we needed it," said Kristin Lara, former Viking softball player. With all the attention swirling around the program, These players and parents just hope that this situation can be resolved. "Bryan ISD gets a bad rap all the time and I think its time that we as a community support them and quit throwing out accusations all the time." Bryan Athletic Director Harry Francis was unable to comment this afternoon because he said that this is a personnel issue involving students
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:51 AM

Comment Title: always causing problems...
My daughter plays softball at North Little League with the girls in question. I am not surprised this is happening - these same families always try to start trouble every year we play.
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Posted by: public school sucks On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:43 AM

Comment Title: ...
A few of my comments were assuming the information reported was correct, and I know today's media isn't to be trusted 100%. If this is not so, it is easy to see which can be ignored. Either way, you people have become completely blinded by the system. Fire the coaches or privately fund the sports program with the participants' money, we aren't paying for a sports organization, it's a public school.
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Posted by: Take a Guess On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:36 AM

Comment Title: Re:IKWUR & Public School Sucks
Yet again, we have a couple of people who are yet to see what the truth is. What is it going to take to make you people realize that the complaints these parents are making are false? My suggestion to you is to file an open records request and get a copy of what was submitted by these parents. In it you will see that these parents were well aware of the fact that their daughters were not making the grade therefore are not eligible (per UIL) to play, their daughters were skipping school, their daughters did miss practices, showed up late for practices, did not bring their equipment to games and the list goes on and on. There were no grades "fixed" and no attendance records altered, but I would guarantee if you were to see their attendance records you will see numerous absences in other periods other than 7th, which was softball and I would guarantee you would see that they failed classes. There is no way Coach Luna fixed their grades. It doesn't matter how many players or parents or former players inform the public of how things are in the softball program, there will always be those ignorant people such as yourselves that are talking out of your behind. The only school policies broken were by the girls themselves, if anyone should be fined it should be the parents, each and every time their child skips school, and I would really like to know what state and federal laws were broken! Give me a freakin' break, prison time and large fines, where do you come up with this crap?! My guess is you two were students like these girls and you are ready to blame everyone else for your faults or shortcomings. Bryan High Softball has a great softball program with great, experienced coaches! I want to commend Coach Luna on a great 1st season and many more to come!
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:22 AM

Comment Title: Hello !
If parents took as much time taking care of home and family as they do on things like this, everyone would be better off.
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Posted by: public schools suck On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:43 AM

Comment Title: What?!!
You people seem to forget that these parents are also taxpayers. They are forced a the point of a gun to pay into this socialist idea of a public school. (socialist? look at marx's ten planks...) I was involved in a dispute with a school system recently and have seen, first hand, what the school board is loyal to: money. They don't have to answer to griping parents, no matter how blatantly their children have been wronged. They have an attorney, paid for by your tax dollars, to make sure the school comes out on top (coaches included) and say that they are right and you can't do a thing about it, unless, of course, you want to spend more money on an attorney of your own. Coaches are glorified to a sickening extent and need to be taken down from their pedastals. This coach is eligible for termination based solely on school policy, not to mention state and federal law. This guy could end up with a large amount of fines and prison time, but he won't. He might even receive a raise soon, because the ATHLETIC director investigated the situation!!! See anything wrong with that? If you don't, you shouldn't be reading this. Yet again, the system finds nothing wrong with itself after a "thorough investigation".
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Posted by: Informed Parent On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:31 AM

Comment Title: Get the facts straight before you ruin someone else
When I read this slanderous article, I was outraged that THE EAGLE would again print something knowing that they did not have both sides of the story, but ABUSE on the front page really sells papers. I am sure Bonnee Lieuwen would attest to that fact. For those of you new to the community – look up that mess that THE EAGLE created. The only thing that saved her was that the cable company blocked MTV in our area – to protect us all!!! That took the focus off of her and on to the next small town drama. I have been involved in the BHS softball program as a very active parent for 4 years. I never had any problem communicating with any of our coaches while volunteering in the concession stand, or while working on the golf tournament that raised in excess of $30,000 for the softball program. I did not have problems communication with the coaching staff when I attended the REQUIRED parent meetings that were held at the beginning of each season. I remember filling out a form with my contact information and being asked at that time if I had any comments or concerns. I remember the many email messages that came from Coach Luna, the most organized coach that I have met at BHS or in other club leagues or even one local private school. We always received an email telling us where our next game would be held, what time the bus was leaving and most of the time he included driving directions for those of us that went to EVERY game. Not sure we saw the complainers there very often. If we were playing in a tournament, the brackets were sent home with out daughters. Maybe you should ask your daughter what she did with hers. The concession stand list was passed out this way also – it was always evident what parents got the list from there athlete by who did not show up to work their shift. I recall getting a response in a timely and polite manner any time I called or emailed Coach Luna with a question or even a complaint. It is just a shame that just a few people who should be focusing their energy on finding out when or IF their child attended class and actually did the assignments for the day try to stir up some dust so as to not to make their child and themselves look like failures. It is always easier to switch the focus off of the real problem by stirring up some other kind of trouble. Anyone who has been a member of Downtown Methodist Church for the past 10-15 or so years will remember the Young family. The children were most Sundays left unattended to disrupt the service for the first 10-20 minutes of the service until the parents decided to make their appearance – go figure…My Varsity player came home very many days exhausted and almost sick from the rigorous practice that she endured during pre-season – especially since she knew she had homework to do for the classes she had missed but always managed to get it turned in on time. My daughter as well as most of the other Varsity Seniors also took at least one Dual/Credit class through Blinn during softball season which was encouraged by their coaches. She also was very grateful for the tough conditioning that they received as she tried out for a college team recently and the coach told all of the other athletes that they were going to have to get used to “College Level training – it was no way on the level of High School or even club ball training.” My daughter spoke up and said that she thought she was ready for the challenge – the coach looked at her and said “But you are from Bryan, you will have no problem here.” Thanks Coach Luna, Coach Batson, Coach Foreman, and Coach Watson. Our girls were ready and confident to move on beyond BHS and I thank you for all that you did for us.
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Posted by: On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:20 AM

Comment Title: Look Inside
These parents need to look inside their own homes before they open their mouths.
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Posted by: IKWUR On: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:18 AM

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I'm sorry, where in the article does it say that these girls and their parents were complaining about playing time? They didn't complain about being on varsity. All you immature people are getting off on the wrong issue. I don't care how great of a guy/coach you think this luna guy is. If he acted wrongly, broke rules (told them not to come to class and would fix their grades and attendance), etc. He deserves to be terminated. All of you parents of former players/current players, need to get your stories straight. This isn't an issue of playing time, it goes much further than that, and i'm glad they are stepping up. How can you say they skipped school. You don't have their attendance records. You ask to post the stats, post the attendace, Because I think it is rediculous to make such accusations as they were skipping school. Stop losing focus on the issue of these students. They were mistreated by the coaches, therefore it should at least be further investigated. Grow up, don't take cheap shots at these girls and their family, get over yourselves. No where in the article does it say the parents think their girls are superstars, or even varsity level players, it just says they were mistreated, and not given the chances they deserved. I may be old fashioned but I believe that EVERYBODY DESERVES A CHANCE. Don't come back with an immature reply like, show the stats, because that is not the main issue.
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Posted by: Barbara Kasper On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:44 PM

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I am the parent of a current player and I must say these parents do not speak for me and my family. We have tremendous respect and appreciation for Coach Luna and his staff. It was made clear to the parents and players at a preseason meeting what the expectations were, what the consequences would be if the expectations were not met and rules were not followed, and that the players would be treated as responsible young ladies. Coach Luna and his staff were always very consistent in their expectations and it was clear that everyone had an opportunity to earn their spot on the team each and every week. This meant working hard, being self-disciplined, and improving your skills. Because of Coach Luna and his staff my daughter knew what was expected and worked hard, followed the rules, earned her spot on the team, and grew as a player. She even gained a renewed passion for the game and is looking forward to the opportunity to earn a spot next year. Coach Luna and his staff are extremely talented, have a strong work ethic and instill that ethic in the girls. The result is a program that is envied around the State and develops the skills and character of the young ladies that are willing to put in the time, effort, and discipline. Thank you Coach Luna. We appreciate you!
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Posted by: Reagan Towell On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:29 PM

Comment Title: Ignorant parents..
Shut up and grow up. All you ignorant parents think your child is the next best thing to walk on this planet, when in reality, you just need to face the music and realize that not everybody can make the Varsity team. You want to accuse an innocent man of abuse, well that just shows how stupid you are. Maybe take an hour out of your day to go watch how your child is being taught and conditioned and tell me if it's abuse or if it's just a hormonal 15 year old throwing a fit because she's lazy. These girls have it easy and it's so sad that the coaching staff is getting a bad rap because of a public ignorant comment was made. It's sad that every few years some ticked off parent has to complain because their daughter didn't start and former players, parents and coaches have to make some comments telling that parent how stupid they are. Let the stats and records speak for themselves and all the college players that this program has turned out show anybody who reads this story, that it's not a coaching problem, it's a lazy player and ignorant parent problem.
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Posted by: 9 On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:01 PM

Comment Title: Enforce a CUT POLICY
you know bryan could save alot of headache by Having A CUT policy so that the unskilled players such as these 3 wouldn't have the chance to complain when they really should be lucky to even be on the team... cut policy would eliminate the parents who are in the "Little League" mind frame that everyone has to play. Case and Point
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:54 PM

Comment Title: Re: Stick's Comment
It's completely germane to this story. What gives Mr. Flores the right to publicly slander Coach Luna in this matter without opening himself up to criticism for what are apparently well known abuses of his own child? I'd like to know why this is in the paper to begin with. It is my understanding that citizen's comments regarding personnel are not to be made. Please read below from the BISD website. -------- At each meeting, citizens have an opportunity to speak on general topics during the Citizens' Comments portion of the meeting. You may also address the Board on any agenda item. Comments may not be specific to individual students or school personnel and are limited to five minutes each. Cards are available at the sign-in table for you to register your intent to address the Board. ------ Maybe this rule is not applicable to the portion of the meeting in which the Young's, Flores', Salinas' and Mr. Ford made their comments. I wasn't there, but I know to check the website for the meeting agenda. I'm pasting it below. You will notice that these citizens and their complaint are not listed on the agenda. If their comments were made in the citizen's forum (and I don't know this to be the case), they are in violation of the school board's rules and state law. They should have been shut down by the presiding officer of the school board. The Eagle should not have run the story. Putting it front page with what I consider an inflammatory headline, clearly intended to sell a few extra copies at the grocery store checkout is unconscionable. I hope Coach Luna brings suit against everyone involved. Now for the agenda: ----- This notice is posted pursuant to the Texas Open Meetings Act. [TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551] BRYAN ISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING Travis Education Support Center Board Room 101 North Texas Avenue, Bryan, Texas Monday, July 14, 2008 – 6:00 p.m. AGENDA CALL MEETING TO ORDER AND PLEDGE. 1. TEMS FOR INFORMATION. a. Citizens' Comments on Non-Agenda items or Items Listed under the Consent Agenda. Citizens may make comments about existing policy, present commendations, or express areas of concern or need. ~Topics may not be specific to individual students or school personnel and should be limited to five minutes. b. Superintendent and Other Administrative Reports. i. Other – Summer Leadership Institute, Dates and Topics of Discussion for Possible Board Retreat. 2. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND/OR CONSIDERATION: CONSENT AGENDA. a. Consider Minutes of June 2, 9, 30. b. Consider Policy Update 83. c. Consider 2008-09 Student Code of Conduct. d. Consider Resolution Amending Authorized Representatives of District for Investment Purposes. e. Consider Resolution Designating Investment Officers for the District. f. Consider Personnel. 3. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND/OR CONSIDERATION: REGULAR AGENDA. a. Consider Purchasing Laptops for 7th Grade Students at Sam Rayburn Middle School. b. Consider Architect Selection for Kemp-Carver, Bowen, & Jones Projects. c. Consider Award of Vending Contract. d. Consider a Budget Amendment for Fiscal Year Ending 8-31-08. e. Consider Termination of Interlocal Agreement Between College Station ISD, Hearne ISD, and Bryan ISD. f. Consider Stipend Schedule Amendment for 2008-09. g. Consider Purchase in Excess of $25,000.00. h. Discuss 2008-09 Budget. ADJOURN. In accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act Subchapters D and E of Chapter 551, Texas Government Code (§551.071 Attorney/Client Consultation, §551.072 Real Estate, §551.073 Contracts for Gifts or Donations, §551.074 Personnel Matters, §551.075 Investments, §551.076 Security Devices, §551.082 Discipline of Student or Personnel, §551.083 Employee Groups Consultation, §551.084 Exclusion of Hearing Witnesses), the board may enter closed meeting to deliberate any subject authorized by Subchapters listed. Loraine Cline Posted: July 11, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. For the Board of Trustees
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:53 PM

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It all went down hill when we stopped keeping score in T-ball and "graduating" from elementary school.
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Posted by: another former student On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:47 PM

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These girls were not even on Varsity so how much were they really around coach Luna during the season? They were juniors on jv and could not even start in front of freshmen and sophomores not to mention the sophomores and freshmen on varsity. What a joke. They should transfer to another school like one of girls older sister did. If you've ever been to a game you would know Coach Luna and his staff do a great job and care about their players. Grow up, this isn't Little League.
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Posted by: 9 On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:43 PM

Comment Title: POST THE STATS
if any of the coaches read this PLEASE put the varsity stats on here to compare to those girls who didnt play due to uh.... FAILING grades or were too busy skipping to play... post them and compare and then see who's side you want to take people
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:36 PM

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Mr Flores put himself out there by questioning the coaches character. In opening that door and questioning his judgement he himself may now be judged. Or as the old saying goes, " He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones"
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:32 PM

Comment Title: Re: Stick
I think Roy Flores put his family "out there" when he left his daughter on the side of the road. I think you seem to forget that this all goes back to the character of these people and can you believe a single word out of their mouths?! Here is a big question that I'm sure has crossed the minds of some, have these parents thought about how all of this is going to affect their daughters in their Senior Year of high school? Do you think that the students of Bryan High are going to accept the behavior of their parents and the girls? They are going to really be LAUGHED AT NOW!!! GOOD JOB PARENTS, I LIKE THE WAY YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR DAUGHTERS!!!
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Posted by: stick On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:17 PM

Comment Title: come on folks
in all the comments it is right to bring up stats, practice records, etc... but why do you have to go there about mr. flores and his younger daughter?? that is not right putting that family "out there" with that issue. STICK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND!!!
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:12 PM

Comment Title: Priorities
These parents need to put all this time and energy into something constuctive for their children. All this does is take away from what they should be doing at home.It si sending the wrong message.
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Posted by: Grow up On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:06 PM

Comment Title: Give us a break and just move
If your girls can't be starters at BHS then move to Old Dime Box! Maybe they might have a chance there. Oh forget it --- they wouldn't start there either.
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Posted by: 9 On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:06 PM

Comment Title: go 5, you rock my WORLD
HELL YEA 5!! i completely agree with you and your words are magical!!
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Posted by: OUTRAGED! On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:03 PM

Comment Title: UPSET
I AM OUTRAGED ABOUT THESE COMMENTS!!! THESE GIRLS NEED TO GROW UP!!! COACH LUNA IS A GREAT PERSON! HE IS A GREAT COACH JUST BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE DOES NOT MAKE HIM LESS OF A PERSON!!!! IF THESE GIRLS DONT WANT TO GO TO PRACTICE THEN LEAVE THE TEAM!!!!
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:56 PM

Comment Title: Parents :GROW UP
These parents need to grow up themselves. They are teaching their kids tantrums are acceptable when they do not get their way.This will only do them harm later in life when things do not go their way.There are better ways to spend you time that with a chip on your shoulder.
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Posted by: 5 On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:46 PM

Comment Title: THESE GIRLS ARE STUPID, SO THE APPLE MUST NOT FALL FAR FROM THE TREE!
OK FUN TIMES OVER. THESE PEOPLE ARE COMPULSIVE LIARS. IF THEY SERIOUSLY THINK THAT ANDREA, LEAH, AND ANDREA CAN COMPETE WITH THE VARSITY AND JV SILVER SQUADS THEN THEY ARE OUT OF THEIR MINDS. MY 6 YEAR OLD SISTER WOULD BE COMPETITION FOR THEM, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. LETS START WITH GRADES, I DON’T THINK COACH LUNA COULD EVEN HELP THE GRADES OF THESE THREE GIRLS, IF THAT WAS TRUE, THEY NEED MORE HELP THEN HE COULD EVER GIVE WHEN IT COMES TO ACADEMICS. I PERSONALLY DIDN’T EVEN KNOW THAT ONE OF THEM WAS EVEN IN THE PROGRAM BECAUSE SHE FAILED EVERY SIX WEEKS WHICH PREVENTED HER FROM PLAYING. AND ATTENDANCE, THEY WOULDN’T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ATTENDENCE IF THEY COULD KEEP THEIR BEHINDS IN CLASS AND RESIST THE URGE TO SKIP. AND AS FAR AS COACHES GO, I LOVE THEM ALL. THEY WERE FANTASTIC AND WERE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST COACHING STAFF I’VE EVER BEEN BLESSED WITH AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY’VE DONE FOR ME. YA’LL WANT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY SO HERE IT GOES.. THE SO CALLED “PUNISHMENT’ THAT THESE GIRLS KEEP REFERRING TO WAS REQUIRED FOR EVERYONE WHO MISSED FOR ANY OCACASSION. FOR EXAMPLE, SOME GIRLS MISSED SOFTBALL FOR A COLLEGE EXPOSURE SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT AND STILL HAD TO RUN. ANOTHER GIRL MISSED BECAUSE HER SISTER WAS HAVING A BABY AND SHE STILL HAD TO RUN I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR MINDS THAT MAKES THEM THINK THEY ARE EXEMPT TO THIS RULE. AND I’M PRETTY SURE ALL THE GIRLS WILL BACK ME UP ON THIS ONE WHEN I SAY THERE WAS DEFINITELY NO FAVORITISM GOING ON WHATSOEVER. EVERYONE IN THE PROGRAM WAS TREATED EQUALLY SKIN COLOR, AGE, HEIGHT, WEIGHT, SHOE SIZE IT DIDN’T MATTER. IF I WENT AND HIGHLIGHTED ALL THE STUFF IN THE BOOK THAT WAS ACCURATE THE ONLY THING I WOULD BE HIGHLIGHTING WAS THAT OUR COACH’S NAME WAS COACH LUNA AND THAT THE SCHOOL ATTENDED WAS BRYAN HIGH. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY WE’RE ONLY HEARING FROM THE PARENTS AND NOT THE GIRLS. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINGS THIS IS A BIT ODD?
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:45 PM

Comment Title: Let them coach
Let the coaches do there jobs and parents need to take care of there own at home. Don't try living through your kids just because you didn't make the cut when you were there age. Luna has been doing his job as long as I've been involved with softball at Byran High and that's been for well over a dozen years now. He knows what he's doing and the parents need to stay out of it. Let them play.
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Posted by: Best-Boomer On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:38 PM

Comment Title: Back off !
The Bryan High School coaches care about the students! Let's not have another situation like what happened to Marty. He was done wrong by parents who had true bench warmers along with a spineless school board and Dr. Herman. GO MARTY!!!!!
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:21 PM

Comment Title: The accused
I've been envolved with BHS Softball since it's inception. Coach Williamson's record speeks for itself. Coach Williamson would have never left her position if she had not felt Coach Luna was ready. If there were improprieties;(wich I sincerely doubt), I believe ATHLETIC DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON would have corrected them immidiately...Sounds like sour grapes....
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:43 PM

Comment Title: School Board
Of course, we all know the next logical step for the complainants is to run for positions on the school board.
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Posted by: Jehovah On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:43 PM

Comment Title: God
Don't make me come down there!
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:25 PM

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Three of the six coaches are teachers aides. From what I read in the UIL book is that you only have to be a fulltime employee of the ISD to be able to coach. Retired teachers can still coach some sports like golf, tennis, swimming, etc. Being a teachers' aide has nothing to do with this. From what I hear, the coaches at Bryan do a good job with their teams. I hope it all works out for everyone involved. I will pray for all of you.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:05 PM

Comment Title: TO ALL IGNORANT BRYAN CITIZENS:
YES, Luna is a teacher's assistant. Does his position in the classroom affect his ability to coach? It bothers me that people are hung up on this detail. I am pretty sure that the other coaches involved are not teaching assistants. Do they teach you these things in college? IS one of the interview questions to coach at BHS "Did you take Inappropriate Coaching Strategies 101". Now how dumb does it sound focusing on such a small detail. Why not focus on the people involved and why they did (if they did anything) these things. Maybe Harry Francis should get out of his office a little more and do what he is getting paid for.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:49 PM

Comment Title: OOPS, they did it again!!!!!!
What else happened? We all know that we are not getting the whole story. We are saying the parents are over reacting, they obviously have a reason to. If this was your child you would want something done too. I am sure they did something else, crossed some lines, got inappropriate, or something along those lines. Hope they dotted their I's and crossed their T's. This could be bad for BISD.
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Posted by: Former Student On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:39 PM

Comment Title: In response to the FORMER JLMS EDUCATOR!!!!!
I see why you are known as a former employee. I hope you are not an employee of BISD anymore. BISD would not run as smoothly as it does without the hard work and dedication of ALL of its employees. Your level of Education has nothing to do with your ability to teach. There are many certified teachers that should not be teaching. The only difference between you and him is a piece of paper and a lot of student loans. He has built an OUTSTANDING program at BHS. I do not condone any of these allegations, but refuse to blame it on him not having his degree. He has proven that he has the skills to hold the position that he is in, the successes of the program speak for itself. Sounds to me like you may be a little jealous of his success.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:47 PM

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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:17 PM

Comment Title: incompetent
Of all the comments that I’ve read not one addresses the top 3 issues. One, endangering children by telling them to not come to class. Two, fixing their grades as if they attended class. And three fixing attendance records as if they were in class, if no body can see this as a violation and want to invest this any further, then they are just as incompetent as this coach.. And the fact that when the parents went before the administration and the superintendent they did not consider this of importance. If this is business as usual then there is a bigger problem here.
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Posted by: current player On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:06 PM

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I have been around the players and the parents of the players who are making these accusations, and I’m not buying them. If you missed a practice you make it up. End of story. Just because it was for a funeral it doesn’t matter. I also missed practice for a funeral later on in the season and you better believe that I made it up. It’s the rules. Even though I was a varsity starter it didn’t matter I ran for it before a huge district game. No exceptions! What theses people are calling abuse I call discipline. One of the accusers daughters was specifically told (as were all other juniors and seniors) not to play in the Powder Puff game, but played anyway. And as she should she got punished for it. I’m sorry but that is not abuse. It’s called teaching players to be responsible for their actions. This isn’t daddy ball this is high school. We are young adults and we should not be treated like babies; its time to grow up. I’m proud to say that I play softball I Bryan High and I’m coached by Luna.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:39 PM

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Fire'em!!!
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:31 PM

Comment Title: One -Sided
The media is famous for printing one side or opinion of the story so I take their reporting with a grain of salt. This is what media does...sensationalize to get you to read it or watch it so you see the ads that pay the salaries. We all know the truth is somewhere in the middle and there are really only 2 parties that know it. Anything else is heresay.
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Posted by: Leroy Conerway #22 '98 7-4 baby!!!!!!! On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:20 PM

Comment Title: Something to think about
It's amazing to me how some parents will do anything to make a point, even when it's at the expense of young athletes. Coach Luna is someone that I've not only played with but coached with as well. He's played under Coach Criswell who is a man among men and I'm forever greatful for what he's has taught me. He's also been coach by Coach Peir who's like a second father to me. He's also been groomed to take the place of a hella coach by Coach Williamson. I've learned from coaching that the kids are easy It's the parents that you have to deal that makes coaching so difficult. I'm learned with coaching is that it's sooo easy to point out what a coach should do and what they shouldn't do. My advice to you is to coach a little league team and then you'll begin to understand that it's not so easy sitting from the stands. There's rules and guidelines on every team and they differ from every coach. If their making the playoffs and winning games obviously he's doing a good job. If you miss pratice then you have to make it up no matter the excuse. Another thing my coaches told me if you feel that strongly about something, Put your name on it, I see their's lots of cowards that will write anything behind a blank screen. I've learned that coachin are like parenting...Though you might not agree with them at the time, when you get older and look back that's when you start to appreciating them for what they did.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:12 PM

Comment Title: JP
I understand your concern with losing a loved one. I've lost many friends and family and in fact I did lose someone very close to me in high school when I was a sophmore and was playing volleyball. And I along with everyone else had the option to go home because we were upset and I along with other volleyball and football players decided that we were going to have to make the practice up anyways that we stayed for real practice. I understand going to a funeral but when you have other resonsiblities you have to make sacrifices if you want them bad enough. No one ever said that these girls were wrong for being upset and going to a funeral. Not at all their concern was making it all up when they got back. Coach Luna I'm sure gave them plenty of time to make it up. Everyones lost someone at some point so I do understand where these girls are coming from. These coaches are top notch and prove that with the program. These people are husbands, fathers, teachers, and coaches! And they are HUMAN if there are suggestions to be made on the coaching staff I'm sure they would be more then willing to listen to VALID concerns and suggestions. Enrique Luna needs to be given a chance and everyone is counting him out!
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Posted by: a parent On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:58 PM

Comment Title: just a parent
this treatment is no different than what has happened for decades. My high school band director was the worst-but he got the best out of us by making us feel like dirt. I don't think coaches feel the need to baby athletes and treat them with kid gloves. On the other side, as a teacher, I would get fired if I used the same langueage in the classroom that coaches use in the lockerroom.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:53 PM

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I would be interested to hear the other side of the story. What is interesting to me is that Roy Flores (husband of Stacy) is the person who put his small daughter out of the car on a busy bypass "to teach her a lesson". He is complaining foul?
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Posted by: BJ On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:48 PM

Comment Title: Slander
Do these parents honestly think that getting a whole new coaching staff would make a difference? If you don't make the grades you don't play and if you are not a good player you don't make the team. Changing coaches is not going to make your kids better players and you better hope these four coaches don't decide to go after you for slander.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:38 PM

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Who cares about softball...get the football program better!!!! Hasnt been good since those boys in '01 lost to Consol.
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Posted by: Concerned for the children On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:27 PM

Comment Title: Re JP
Obviously you have never lost a loved one. Well I have, and being a grown woman, it is one of the hardest things in life to deal with. But we're not talking about grown women, these are just 16/17 year old girls. And I understand that when you miss practice you must make up for it. But I know the girl who passed's mother, and her daughter was killed in october. Now I may be wrong but i'm pretty sure that the softball and baseball practices for the season don't start until January. But what do I know? So they wern't making up practices, since they wern't even started at the time. I understand they think they need to make up classes missed. But come on! There should be exceptions to the rule, and loseing a friend is already hard enough, don't think you are justifying the fact that they were punished because it was making up practices that hadn't started yet. Keep in mind these girls had 6 other classes to make up work for i'm sure. So I am disgusted that someone would think it was okay to punish these girls for being human. End of story.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:16 PM

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Coach Francis did look into this matter and discussed with with both parties. The Bryan High sports department has handled this matter very well. As for the workouts the softball girls do yes it is harder then some programs. Alot of the boys that know these girls and have sat and watched a workout know all to well that these girls are very dedicated. I think the main concern is that these parents need to stop crying over spilled milk. This is why this story has even made it public. This matter was handled in the appropriate matter by school officials and because the parents didn't like the outcome they are taking it to a whole nother level. To those who are saying this is all about Coach Luna's behavior please enlighten me on what you think is wrong about Coach Luna's behavior?
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:08 PM

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to say that girls softball has a harder workout program than most of the other sports is silly. thats like saying the sport i play is better and harder than the sport you play. are parents really writing this stuff? all sounds juvenile.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:03 PM

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I don't know all the facts regarding Coach Luna, but I have a daughter who participated in a Varsity sport at BHS and she was a starter at every game. Your right, you have to put in the extra practice to earn your spot, but the issue is Luna's behavior, not the girls playing time. The issue is Coach Francis not looking further into it. The problem is girls sports, in general do not get the attention from BHS that they should. Concerns within a particular girl sport go unanswered.
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Posted by: JP On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:55 PM

Comment Title: punishment
I want you guys to realize that Coach Luna did not punish these girls for going to a funeral. They had to make up practices that they missed. Its the same for everyone in any sport you have to make up your practices. I did it when I was in school and so do others no matter what the circumstances are. And if they haven't made up practices before their next game then they do not play. They have to make up all missed practices before they can play in any game. That's the rules for everyone! So because these 3 parents are complaining Coach Luna should be removed! No if Coach Luna is removed this program will suffer! He has become the back bone of this program for many years and has helped Coach Williamson in her many years of heading the program. These parents are just hurt that their children couldn't hack it in softball. Everyone other girl in this program has loved the fact that they have a harder work out then most of the other sports programs at Bryan High. This is what sets them apart and this is why these girls are constantly making it to the playoffs and winning state championships! Suck it up girls or go home! "There's no crying in SOFTBALL!"
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Posted by: punished for going to the funeral of a classmate On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:38 PM

Comment Title: More details
ABC 40 Exclusive -- Bryan High Parents Accuse Softball Coaches of Misconduct by Loren Korn BRYAN - Bryan High parents say the Varsity Softball coaching staff is victimizing their daughters. Several parents sought out ABC 40 looking for answers. "We need to take the step here with the school board. It's time to find someone who's willing to take action and do something to protect our children," said parent Steven Young. And after two years of what Bryan High softball players say has been nothing but abuse and flagrant rule-breaking by coaches, the parents are now the ones stepping up to the plate and taking action. "They told our children that they will fix their grades. Don't want them to come to class the last full month of school," said parent Stacy Flores. These parents say the outrageous rule-breaking was bad enough. But they also say their daughters have been victims of emotional abuse. The straw that broke the camel's back for these parents was when their children were punished for going to the funeral of a classmate. "Having attended the funeral and being with the family for a couple days, they were punished quite severely for not being at school or at practice," said Young. And after months of complaints, these parents say that going to Monday night's school board meeting was their last hope. "The grievances in effect that we outlined in detail to them, presented them, in written form, he did apparently discuss with them and came to the conclusion that there was no need to make any changes," said Young. After the parents brought their concerns to the board on Monday evening, we tried speaking to Bryan ISD officials, but they would not comment. "Its not that we don't want to comment, but we can't risk disclosing things that shouldn't be discussed in public," said Bryan ISD Director of Communications Sandy Farris. Now that these parents have made their complaints public, what happens next is entirely up to the school board. "Ultimately Id like to see the staffing change, id like to see the program the way that they conduct themselves change," said Flores.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:28 PM

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There are over 60 girls in the Bryan HS program. They have 4+ teams each year. The Rudder HS freshman girls participated in the Bryan HS offseason in the fall (which could be against UIL). If there was such a problem, why only these people -- 3 out of over 60 at BHS and 12-15 at RHS. Looks like a very small percentage. I saw that the Ford girl made 1st team all-district and the coach has to nominate and the rest have to vote... This could really damage the program for many years to come. If the accusations are false, they need to stop real soon.
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Posted by: On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:21 PM

Comment Title: Really Janet?!?!?!
"did not plan further investigate their claims."
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Posted by: Ben Aroundawhile On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:15 PM

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As someone who has been involved with youth softball in the Brazos Valley since the mid 90's I find several things interesting about this situation. When I first began reading the article this morning I thought that this sounded remarkably like what Russ Ford has been telling anyone who'd listen for years. He has been activly campaigning against Bryan's coaching staff since his last daughter was there. When I get to the end of the article there he was. This is the guy who wanted Coach Williamson fired in the midst of 4 state tournamnet appearences in 7 years. Also a guy who is famous around the area and the state for his tendancy to chew his daughters out after games if they did not perform to his expectations. Many got a glimpse into his personality several yearsago at a playoff game when a former BHS coach said high and was greeted with a profane explitive. I also find it interesting that his daughter just recently began her High School coaching career and he has often expressed his opinion that she would be perfect for the position. Hmmmmmm? AS far as Mr.Flores goes, he is to my knowledge banned from coaching a team at Little League East for his behavior over the years besides his fame for dropping off kids. I also understand that his daughters grandFather is a reporter at The Eagle. Mr Young as well has a less than stellar reputation at Little League North. I think more investigation into the people making the allegations is needed. If there are issues then they need to be addressed but to just go on the word of individual with questionable character and a well known history of this type of accusations is both irresponsible to the community and the Brazos Valley Softball as a whole. Especially all the girls who love the game and the people that dedicate their time to give them the opportunity.
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Posted by: p.o.'ed former player On: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:11 PM

Comment Title: yeah right.
i really cannot believe you people are believing this crap that parents and wannabe superstars are saying. if you aren't good enough, sorry. actually... i'm not sorry. as for coach luna, i can only say good things about him. he does everything in his ability to make his players be the best and i can say i am completely grateful for everything he put me through. all the hard workouts that these