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Posted: Saturday, February 9, 2013 12:00 am | Updated: 6:55 am, Sun Dec 21, 2014.

Texas A&M students are scheduled to vote on a fee increase to help fund renovations to Kyle Field.

The student senate voted 29-3 Wednesday to place two options for student funding on the Feb. 21-22 campus-wide ballot.

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29 comments:

  • mart80 posted at 11:32 am on Mon, Feb 11, 2013.

    mart80 Posts: 471

    Sorry Mr.Knotts,been away. To answer your question,structural cracks have been observed in structural beams that support second decks.Believe it or not ,bat guano contains enzymes that effect the concrete.Not only structural,but there are electrical and plumbing issues. My take ,is things are in shambles and being addressed by Populus.

     
  • elf posted at 11:04 pm on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    elf Posts: 1566

    I am beginning to think you are the old Know-it-all again. He was clearly part of the problem.

     
  • elf posted at 11:00 pm on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    elf Posts: 1566

    Do you know something about Zachary company that I don't? The Vaughn company gets a lion's share of the building on campus.

     
  • c00nphrog posted at 9:38 pm on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    c00nphrog Posts: 5

    Ducks,

    You keep saying to PAY the players....The last time I checked, these "youth" as you called them were getting a free college education, room & board, and access to the latest and greatest in sports medicine. To say they do not know the risks is asinine. My son played JV football this year, and I can't tell you how many hours of class he and I had to sit through going over concussions and the various other types of injuries that can be caused in playing football. this is high school that they are informing us. Mind you I live in North Carolina, and as I grew up in Texas, and know how much football matters in the state, to say that these "youth" are not told of the dangers, and are not informed of the effects is silly. Crawl out from under the rock you live under, and pull your head out of the sand. These kids are getting better medical care than most people in the country, oh yeah, and they don't pay a dime for it. Meanwhile, the rest of us have to pay the 25-30k bucks a year to get the same benefits of a college education, but you are absolutely right, we should pay them.....and what should we use to pay them.....hmmmm.....wouldn't be the extra money that I would have to pay in tuition as I am sure that would increase across the nation if we had to Pay these players that are getting a FREE ride.

     
  • rj posted at 8:06 pm on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    rj Posts: 152

    OK --

    1. No coach paid more than $500,000/yr. They're essentially minor-league coaches; quit paying them like they are professionals.
    2. Pay the players. They're the ones taking the chances with their health and the ones you folks are paying to see.
    3. Quit spending so much on facilities. The local school literally has better facilities than the Cincinnati Bengals.
    4. Give seating at a low cost to each student for four years and no more than four years. After that, if you want to see minor leaguers strut their stuff on the field -- pay the going rate. No money from student fees should ever go to athletics.
    5. As to the going rate -- the rest of the seats go for whatever amount it takes to pay for all the precious "improvements" these folks seem to want. After all -- that's the market theory that the "conservatives" around here espouse when there are public improvements needed. They always seem to forget that when something they like is up for bids.
    6. This may mean a smaller stadium. If so, that's the way it goes. If they want to do more, they'll just have to raise ticket prices or go without. A subsidy from unwilling taxpayers and students make for economic inefficiencies.

     
  • FromAfar posted at 10:20 am on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    FromAfar Posts: 439

    That old lie is currently inoperative, SR, but will be repeated once Unwise and his cohorts think that the memory of this latest transfer of funds into athletics is forgotten by readers.

     
  • because posted at 9:34 am on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    because Posts: 302

    ....but fortunately we have you, the smart and reasonable one....

     
  • Sabio posted at 9:05 am on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    Sabio Posts: 1462

    Don't need to look at the lunar tables, just based on many of the comments we've been under a full moon lately.

     
  • Sabio posted at 9:04 am on Sun, Feb 10, 2013.

    Sabio Posts: 1462

    Oh please.....Skanska has built a good number of those buildings over the past 5 years. They're an international concern. They also do outstanding work, and on time.

    You see fire where there isn't even smoke. Roy g is right....you see the boogeyman everywhere. What a horrible way to live life.

     
  • Nightowl posted at 11:59 pm on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Nightowl Posts: 28

    There is no good reason to tear down the existing portions of Kyle Field. What is needed is to fill in the totally unnecessary gaps in the North end-zone and close in the South end-zone put chair-back seats in those now open areas and you will have the largest stadium in the State of Texas and maybe the US. That could be accomplished for less than half of what is projected for the destruction of the existing structure and total rebuild. Why break up existing concrete (some as much as 90 years old) to replace it with green concrete which will take many years to become as strong as that which is in the original structure. Totally stupid move in MHO.

    Yes, up-grade the concession stands and toilets and put in a few elevators in both ends and on the East side as well as adding a couple on the West side and guess what - a fantastic new feeling stadium. And much cheaper.

     
  • posted at 7:42 pm on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Posts:

    Food in the new Kyle Field will be served from the concussion stands. The Big Screen will only show extreme hits...where hopefully members of the other team must be carried from the field. Fans will root for head injuries, whether they know they are doing it or not...we want legal hits that cause early dementia type football....nothing else will do. We are an academic institution, opps, football minor league site, where anything goes to please the fans. Safety is not the issue...a fun filled, injury plagued Saturday (at 11 a.m.) is the goal. This is why we left the Big 12...not enough action...we want to play, stay and stray with the big boys. We want to do serious hurt. Oh, and we want to pay huge prices (especially students) so that we can watch the gladiators in our temple of doom.

     
  • SRGilbert posted at 6:54 pm on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    SRGilbert Posts: 105

    What happened to the athletic department "supporting itself"? This more and more extreme obsession with football is so out of control, it is no longer funny...it's tragic. Why not go ahead and do away with all the academics and research and just devote all resources of TAMU to Aggie football? What better way to produce students ready to compete on a global scale? Watch out China!

     
  • elf posted at 3:14 pm on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    elf Posts: 1566

    They've done this sort of thing for the last 8 years. Haven't you noticed the pletherage of building on campuses all over Texas. That is a way to use the PUF fund to ensure the success of Houston contractors. We have built buildings on TAMU campus that won't be fully utilized for 8 to 12 years (classic example the Agriculture Administration complex), all in a time of budget restrictions. The campaign money comes in directly, through the Houston Realtors, the TPPF, and through the Republican Governor's PAC. Check it out.

     
  • roy g posted at 1:21 pm on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    roy g Posts: 716

    A plot in every garage and a conspiracy in every pot.

     
  • posted at 11:39 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Posts:

    There are many people in the 40s-60s dealing with early onset dementia due to one two many hits when they played football earlier. Note the NFL suits and the many injuries among players who never made it to the NFL. The evidence is now emerging and even the NFL recognizes that they must do something, at least in terms of better procedures regarding multiple concussions, better information for players, and better rules to protect players on the field. Football is similar to gladiators of old...it is about entertaining the masses, making a lot of owners and players rich, and circuses.

     
  • posted at 11:34 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Posts:

    We do everything we can to protect the ADULTS who we PAY to be firefighters/police officers, etc. But with children/youth who are not paid, who are not fully informed of the dangers and who suffer trauma when they are young that show up later in life as debilitating injuries and disabilities we owe full information to they and their parents. These are not pro athletes...these are student-athletes who are not being fully informed of the risks of the activities they are undertaking. Fans also DEMAND big hits and go crazy when one occurs. We want our football players to man up, which means undertaking dangerous tactics to play and win games. As fans we encourage, and pay money to watch the games being played. I do not understand your reference to the ACLU, which usually deals mainly with first amendment issues, but okay if that is where you want to take the discussion. We are trying to make cars safer, are tightening down on drinking/driving, control the age at which people can drive, and have severe penalties for bad driving...so, yes, let's put the same thought into who plays, how they play, the warnings about playing, playing safe, etc. for football as we do for driving. We maybe could spend some of the $425M that we will invest in the concussion factory into ways to make the game that kids love to play and we love to watch safer.

     
  • chetanraj posted at 11:30 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    chetanraj Posts: 1

    what about the third option, the one that doesn't involve a mandatory fee hike or reallocating current student fees used for education to athletics? if anything, at least have an option where the only increase would be to student ticket prices, not student ticket prices AND mandatory student fees.

     
  • Bill Knotts'51 posted at 11:03 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Bill Knotts'51 Posts: 84

    I have to ask mart80 what part of Kyle is in shambles?And to elf had this been rigged bidding H B Zachary Co would have been the prime contractor.As for a concussion factory would someone explain why concussions are so prevalent now?I played high school ball for three years and cannot remember a case.We were coached to lead with our head and helmets in blocking and tackling I am sure the current helmets are of superior design to those of the '40's.

     
  • mart80 posted at 9:58 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    mart80 Posts: 471

    Concussion factory? Are you serious?C'mon! I guess we should eliminate firefighters and police officers because the job is too dangerous?ACLU has just found another way of putting out frivulous lawsuits.I guess we should'nt drive either? PLEASE!

     
  • posted at 9:43 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Posts:

    Think of the football stadium as a concussion factory. Then ask if you want to pay for it. Think of the video screen as a way to show off Aggies hurting members of the other team...then think about whether you want to pay for it. Think of the players as cheap labor that helps pay the salaries for coaches and administrators...and feeds the local economy 6-7 times a year (8 this next year)...and ask why you are paying for this? Think about our president, opps, mascot, having a place to shake hands with former students on Saturday and think if you want to pay for this.

     
  • mart80 posted at 9:41 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    mart80 Posts: 471

    I think some comments are utterly ridiculous,in regards to the stadium.Kyle is in shambles and overall, needs repair anyway.Be proactive in your complaints,instead of putting them on keyboard.Action speaks louder than words.

     
  • elf posted at 8:57 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    elf Posts: 1566

    What concerns me is the way in which the stadium was "bid" for construction. There was an extremely short time given to bidders, suggesting to me that the whole thing was somehow rigged. The high cost may be in part an agreement of campaign contributions to Perry (or even to Sharp if he decides to run for governor). The students should not be asked to pay for political contributions to campaign funds in order to attend TAMU.

     
  • ftw posted at 8:46 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    ftw Posts: 1237

    The governor prohibited the university from increasing tuition because it has been increased too quickly, saying the financial burden on students and their parents is too high. All the while, the state has cut funding to the university to the point where they fund less than 20% of the budget.

    So it's consider proper to increase a fee on students to help pay for a football stadium, but not for academics. Based on this logic, I guess football is more important than the primary mission of a university, to educate students, which does involve research.

    And since TAMU is a land grant university, there is that other part we are supposed to be doing, Service. Have all these ideals gone out the window after a single winning football season? And is the cart in front of the horse here?

    I can't help but think we have lost our way and it will come back to bite us.

     
  • lightswitch posted at 8:31 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    lightswitch Posts: 67

    Congrats on your football religion temple expansion.

     
  • prairiegirl posted at 6:57 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    prairiegirl Posts: 552

    Agreed! Let the rich alumni foot the bill for this one. The current students should have no added costs for any of this building business.

     
  • citizen1 posted at 6:26 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    citizen1 Posts: 253

    The new stadium is a colossal waste of money for the University… The students will vote for the increase, of course; at least the students who have been trained properly at the Reeducation Camps… I mean Fish Camps.

     
  • Bill Knotts'51 posted at 5:43 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    Bill Knotts'51 Posts: 84

    The fee increase and season ticket price will exclude some students from attending games which I strongly oppose.The fat cat former students can pay these prices and should be expected to carry the burden,not students.Every student should be able to attend any athletic event,lecture.entertainment,etc. at no personal cost.Take the list of Former Students,solicit their input and the amount they would be willing to donate as a designated gift for this endeavor.With this information determine exactly how much MORE will be needed,there is no rush or crisis so get busy.

     
  • because posted at 1:38 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    because Posts: 302

    No you must have misunderstood something:

    The rest of the University supports the athletic department whenever it is needed. For example Sumlim's salaray of barely 2 Mio is an embarrassment, and he will need a raise of at least 30% while the rest of the university didn't have a raise over the last three years. The Department of Athletics can keep all its income and other proceeds, while researcher pay from their grants a 45% overhead to the University and, of course the tuition, departments obtain, go directly to the University, in order to pay for our expensive athletic program.

    It is only the other way around it does not work: Everything the athletic program makes stays in the athletic program. Because we are primarily not a university, but a football club with tax-exempt status.

     
  • rj posted at 12:16 am on Sat, Feb 9, 2013.

    rj Posts: 152

    Wait a minute -- I thought the athletic department paid its own way.

     

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